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		<title>Psuedo-science: Planes on a treadmill</title>
		<link>http://www.automaticable.com/2008-01-31/psuedo-science-planes-on-a-treadmill/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Wegner</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[conveyer]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[mythbusters]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[from kottke: Here&#8217;s the original problem essentially as it was posed to us: &#8220;A plane is standing on a runway that can move (some sort of band conveyer). The plane moves in one direction, while the conveyer moves in the opposite direction. This conveyer has a control system that tracks the plane speed and tunes [...]]]></description>
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<p><span style="font-size: 85%">from <a href="http://www.kottke.org/06/02/plane-conveyor-belt">kottke</a>:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="font-size: 85%"><span style="color: #666666">Here&#8217;s the original problem essentially as it was posed to us: &#8220;A plane is standing on a runway that can move (some sort of band conveyer). The plane moves in one direction, while the conveyer moves in the opposite direction. This conveyer has a control system that tracks the plane speed and tunes the speed of the conveyer to be exactly the same (but in the opposite direction). Can the plane take off?&#8221;</span> </span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="font-size: 100%">What do you think?  It&#8217;s a tough question, especially because of how it is worded.</span></p>
<p>I read this a few months back and at first I got it wrong, along with a slew of other people, including professional and amature pilots alike.  This question became so popular that <a href="http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/mythbusters/mythbusters.html">Mythbusters</a> picked it up and (after a few delays) just aired an episode dedicated to this question.  I missed the episode, but the event was <a href="http://www.kottke.org/08/01/mythbusters-airplane-on-a-conveyor-belt">liveblogged</a> by Jason Kottke fantastically.  Don&#8217;t read the post until you&#8217;ve spent some time thinking about the problem.  Talk it out with a friend.  The debate will surprise you.  Before you read up on the outcome of the Mythbusters&#8217; experiment, take a look at the original post linked at the top of the page and sift through the comments for a while.  It is really interesting to see the different theories.</p>
<p>One of the best parts about this, I think, is that even though the Mythbusters have &#8220;proven&#8221; how the plane may or may not take off, there is still HUGE debate about it on the <a href="http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9401967776/m/4441931059?r=5311922059#5311922059">Mythbusters forums</a>.</p>
<p>On a semi-related note, do you think it is as ridiculous as I do that someone liveblogged a TV show that almost everyone has access to?  I understand that it was for his own amusement, but this just shows how much blogging has changed since its inception.</p>
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