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	<title>Comments on: Purchase Non-Free (MP3, DVD) Media Codecs For Ubuntu Linux</title>
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		<title>By: Pamantha</title>
		<link>http://www.automaticable.com/2008-09-22/purchase-non-free-mp3-dvd-media-codecs-for-ubuntu-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-780</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont usually comment, but after reading through so much info I had to say thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont usually comment, but after reading through so much info I had to say thanks</p>
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		<title>By: natheepat</title>
		<link>http://www.automaticable.com/2008-09-22/purchase-non-free-mp3-dvd-media-codecs-for-ubuntu-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-716</link>
		<dc:creator>natheepat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think free song are never die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think free song are never die.</p>
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		<title>By: DEAD</title>
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		<dc:creator>DEAD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DEAD............Come back from the Dead Automaticable.  ZOMBIES YUM YUM YUM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DEAD&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;Come back from the Dead Automaticable.  ZOMBIES YUM YUM YUM</p>
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		<title>By: S.O.</title>
		<link>http://www.automaticable.com/2008-09-22/purchase-non-free-mp3-dvd-media-codecs-for-ubuntu-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-659</link>
		<dc:creator>S.O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MP3 playback is no longer patent encumbered, so that isn&#039;t a problem in any case. The application for DVD playback, is Cyberlink&#039;s Linux version of Power DVD and is entirely their own product. I am not particularly familiar with it&#039;s Linux integration or stability, but I am under the impression this should allow Bluray video as well (and if not now then some time in the future). I usually play DVDs in VLC personally, under all operating systems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MP3 playback is no longer patent encumbered, so that isn&#8217;t a problem in any case. The application for DVD playback, is Cyberlink&#8217;s Linux version of Power DVD and is entirely their own product. I am not particularly familiar with it&#8217;s Linux integration or stability, but I am under the impression this should allow Bluray video as well (and if not now then some time in the future). I usually play DVDs in VLC personally, under all operating systems.</p>
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		<title>By: A GNOME update, a way to buy non-free codecs in Ubuntu, and an Intrepid beta freeze, oh my! &#171; I&#8217;m Just an Avatar</title>
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		<dc:creator>A GNOME update, a way to buy non-free codecs in Ubuntu, and an Intrepid beta freeze, oh my! &#171; I&#8217;m Just an Avatar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] distros of Linux that come with a price tag have the codecs because you&#8217;re paying for them. Scott Wegner reminded me of a link in this week&#8217;s Ubuntu Weekly News that I had missed. Canonical, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] distros of Linux that come with a price tag have the codecs because you&#8217;re paying for them. Scott Wegner reminded me of a link in this week&#8217;s Ubuntu Weekly News that I had missed. Canonical, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Wegner</title>
		<link>http://www.automaticable.com/2008-09-22/purchase-non-free-mp3-dvd-media-codecs-for-ubuntu-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-619</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Wegner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What I’d prefer for the codecs, is that they’d offer the open-source equivalents and then charge us for a license (so e.g. offering LAME with a license from Fraunhofer/Thompson/whoever)… it would be nice to at least have open-source software, as the next-best thing to free software.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree 100%-- it would be so nice to *legally* use to open-source codecs.  This has the added benefit that most applications already use LAME and other free codecs.  Will Rhythmbox use Fluendo&#039;s MP3 plugin?  Will VLC use Cyberlink&#039;s DVD reader?  I kinda doubt it, which is unfortunate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What I’d prefer for the codecs, is that they’d offer the open-source equivalents and then charge us for a license (so e.g. offering LAME with a license from Fraunhofer/Thompson/whoever)… it would be nice to at least have open-source software, as the next-best thing to free software.</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree 100%&#8211; it would be so nice to *legally* use to open-source codecs.  This has the added benefit that most applications already use LAME and other free codecs.  Will Rhythmbox use Fluendo&#8217;s MP3 plugin?  Will VLC use Cyberlink&#8217;s DVD reader?  I kinda doubt it, which is unfortunate.</p>
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		<title>By: yungchin</title>
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		<dc:creator>yungchin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I think the prices are a bit steep. What would be cool is if Cyberlink would give a discount in return for the (license for the) Windows version of the player, which is included with many laptops/desktops, motherboards, and DVD transports.

I&#039;d be willing to pay the prices they charge if a significant amount of it goes to Canonical (and thus to GNU/Linux/freedesktop development). That&#039;s similar to how I feel about Wordpress - they charge rather high prices for services like custom domain-names - but it&#039;s sponsoring the development of a free platform.

What I&#039;d prefer for the codecs, is that they&#039;d offer the open-source equivalents and then charge us for a license (so e.g. offering LAME with a license from Fraunhofer/Thompson/whoever)... it would be nice to at least have open-source software, as the next-best thing to free software. That should be feasible as long as there&#039;s no DRM involved... (do the Fluendo codecs handle files with DRM, by the way?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I think the prices are a bit steep. What would be cool is if Cyberlink would give a discount in return for the (license for the) Windows version of the player, which is included with many laptops/desktops, motherboards, and DVD transports.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be willing to pay the prices they charge if a significant amount of it goes to Canonical (and thus to GNU/Linux/freedesktop development). That&#8217;s similar to how I feel about WordPress &#8211; they charge rather high prices for services like custom domain-names &#8211; but it&#8217;s sponsoring the development of a free platform.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;d prefer for the codecs, is that they&#8217;d offer the open-source equivalents and then charge us for a license (so e.g. offering LAME with a license from Fraunhofer/Thompson/whoever)&#8230; it would be nice to at least have open-source software, as the next-best thing to free software. That should be feasible as long as there&#8217;s no DRM involved&#8230; (do the Fluendo codecs handle files with DRM, by the way?).</p>
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		<title>By: jimcooncat</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimcooncat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Price is too high. They&#039;d make more money if they got together and sold both for $40. The companies would benefit too by using the same marketing people for a combined project. From  a quick look at the websites, it looks like Fluendo&#039;s marketing could use the help.

IMHO: Given the choice between $90 and legal vs. free and not-so-legal, most people would go for the latter if they felt they wouldn&#039;t get in trouble. Keep it under $50, and a good portion would pay. Of course some won&#039;t pay anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Price is too high. They&#8217;d make more money if they got together and sold both for $40. The companies would benefit too by using the same marketing people for a combined project. From  a quick look at the websites, it looks like Fluendo&#8217;s marketing could use the help.</p>
<p>IMHO: Given the choice between $90 and legal vs. free and not-so-legal, most people would go for the latter if they felt they wouldn&#8217;t get in trouble. Keep it under $50, and a good portion would pay. Of course some won&#8217;t pay anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Wegner</title>
		<link>http://www.automaticable.com/2008-09-22/purchase-non-free-mp3-dvd-media-codecs-for-ubuntu-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-614</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Wegner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Josh, good to hear from ya!

We are in a similar situation, and I have yet to decide if it&#039;ll be worth it or not.  I still have a few questions, which I hope will be answered as this draws more publicity:

-- The DVD software is entitled &quot;PowerDVD Linux&quot;, which sounds like it will be a completely new video player;  will the DVD codecs be available to use within existing players, such as Totem or VLC?
-- Will the codec downloads come as an extra repository, in a way that updates will be installed automatically?
-- What are the terms of the licensing?  Specifically, can I install the software on another OS for a dual boot or virtual machine?  What about on my laptop?  And if I upgrade to Intrepid down the road?

Can&#039;t wait to hear more about this as things progress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Josh, good to hear from ya!</p>
<p>We are in a similar situation, and I have yet to decide if it&#8217;ll be worth it or not.  I still have a few questions, which I hope will be answered as this draws more publicity:</p>
<p>&#8211; The DVD software is entitled &#8220;PowerDVD Linux&#8221;, which sounds like it will be a completely new video player;  will the DVD codecs be available to use within existing players, such as Totem or VLC?<br />
&#8211; Will the codec downloads come as an extra repository, in a way that updates will be installed automatically?<br />
&#8211; What are the terms of the licensing?  Specifically, can I install the software on another OS for a dual boot or virtual machine?  What about on my laptop?  And if I upgrade to Intrepid down the road?</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait to hear more about this as things progress.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool.  I am willing to pay for it frankly.  I have fought a losing battle with getting my DVDs to play back reliably.  It makes for a prett lame movie night!  Unfortunately I&#039;m on 64bit but hopefully Cyberlink corrects the 32bit only deficiency soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool.  I am willing to pay for it frankly.  I have fought a losing battle with getting my DVDs to play back reliably.  It makes for a prett lame movie night!  Unfortunately I&#8217;m on 64bit but hopefully Cyberlink corrects the 32bit only deficiency soon.</p>
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